Welcome to the CashLoopholes.
You are Unregistered, please register to gain Full access.    
Header

CashLoopholes » Gambling Loopholes And Secrets » Blackjack Chat » While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?


Blackjack Chat Chat and share anything to do with blackjack in here

Notices
Reply
Thread Tools vBmenu Seperating Image Display Modes
While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?
Old 10-12-2008, 12:34 PM   #1
Points: 359, Level: 7 Points: 359, Level: 7 Points: 359, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
JackDaniel Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

What if you get zero?Also by advantage does it mean you should hit or stay and let the dealer bust?
JackDaniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 02:42 PM   #2
Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
betotrondon Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

negative
betotrondon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 04:49 PM   #3
Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
isthisarhetoricalquestion5059 Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

In most card counting systems, a positive number is good for the player - a low card being used up adds to the count, a high card or ace being used up is negative on the count. Once the count reaches a certain number relative to the proportion of the deck left the game becomes profitable to play.The reason that the game is profitable in high counts (i.e. when there are more than average picture cards and aces in the deck) is because the player will make more blackjacks, which pay the player 1.5 on his bet but pay the house the same 1:1, and because the house will more often bust when forced to draw.While your strategy might deviate a little bit based on that information (you should google "basic blackjack strategy" if you intend to play), the primary focus is that in really good positive counts the game goes from being a few % against your favour, to being a few % in your favour. Ideally you want to spend the whole time it's not in your favour betting nothing, and the whole time it's in your favour betting as much as your bankroll can sustain - but a casino will notice your betting patterns and kick you out pretty quickly, and this is why the teams developed where people counted on behalf of a "high roller" who would step in to play when the count was good.All of that aside, a huge number of casinos are now dealing with automated shufflers which are continuously shuffling 8 decks while you play, making it impossible to keep a count and beat the house.
isthisarhetoricalquestion5059 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 06:57 PM   #4
Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
SiteMGM Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

zero value in blackjack counting is like starting the game from scratch. you just can't take any actions here based on card counting strategy as the simple conclusion is that both high and low value cards are in similar proportions in the deck. Therefore the probability to get a high or law value card is equal.See here for more details about blackjack card counting and the basic strategy card you can use while playing
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
luck
SiteMGM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 09:04 PM   #5
Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ZCT3755 Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

Generally a positive count is when the deck in in your favor, and the larger the number the better. But there are many different card counting strategies out there, so it would depend on each one.Zero is where you start from with a new deck (again on most strategies).Basic strategy tells you whether to hit or stand, rather than the deck count, although a good counter may be able to modify basic strategy when the count reaches certain levels.In any case the edge you are going to get these days from counting is less than 2% according to everything I've read. So you'll make an average of $20 for every $1,000 you wager. But even then it comes with massive swings. And if you are working by yourself, you still have to waste money all the time that the deck is against you.
ZCT3755 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 11:12 PM   #6
Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
aidenislove Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

When you have a positive count, it means that you have counting up too many tens and there are too few of them to be a fortunate outcome.As for playing strategy, you really need to get a chart for card counting because every situation is different depending on how high or low the count is. Blackjack Bluebook by Fred Renzey is probably the easiest to understand.
aidenislove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 01:19 AM   #7
Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7 Points: 353, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
TheDoverPro6641 Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

Actually, both a positve and negative count can provide a slight advantage to the player. A positive count indicates a disproportionate number of face cards left in the shoe, and is to the players advantage as far as increasing your bet, decisions about hitting or staying, splitting, doubling down, and adds the possibility getting more blackjacks. A negative count indicates a disproportionate amount of small cards left in the shoe and can be an advantage as far as reducing you bet, and some decisions about htting, folding, splitting, ro doubling down. For example, if the deck is negative, and you have a 12 or 13 you may want to hit, knowing there are a lot more smaller cards than face cards.Here is some more information that may help you out:
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
luck at the tables.
TheDoverPro6641 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:27 AM   #8
Points: 352, Level: 7 Points: 352, Level: 7 Points: 352, Level: 7
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
 
Status: Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
no1cards Well done! Keep up the good posts
Default While card counting at Blackjack do you have an advantage when you get a negative or a positive result?

with 0 you stick with basic strategy,you need to know basic strategy, before you ever attempt to count cards, I would advise you read some books on this subject before hitting the tables.
no1cards is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


» Random Video's
How To Search Music ...
How To Search Music With Google
Biodiesel Settling
Biodiesel Settling
WoW Backword Tricks!
WoW Backword Tricks!
ebay Hacked! Attack ...
ebay Hacked! Attack of the 1335 Apple iPhones wareagie
Sunlight Turn Into S...
Sunlight Turn Into Solar Power
» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Competitions
All these competitions can be entered FREE!

Poster Of The Week

Top 3 Posters Of The Week Win $5 Each

Click Here For Info!


CLH Lottery

The Lottery Will Be Drawn On The 31st Nov.

Prize - $50

Click Here For Info


Last To Post

The Last Person To Post Wins $100

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:04 PM.


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319