+++Guide to Making $$ on Neobux version 4+++

havenlad · 12-03-2009, 02:07 PM

Several people have been asking me if I will redo the guide in an easier to reads format. I take on board that as it has been amended and bits added and taken off, the order has become a bit fragmented. Version 4 is mainly a tidy up to asddress this but also incorporates a couple of new ideas. Feel free to feedback via this forum.

Firstly, what is
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- the best PTC?

PTC is Pay to Click. It is a form of Get Paid To (GPT). Back in the 90’s there were a few similar systems round, but nobody took them as seriously as they do now. The reason for this was only the people who got in at ground level could make money. With modern day systems, providing the system keeps giving back, they casn be sustainable and you don’t need to recruit people directly. Neobux has incorporated many innovative features, and in general, others follow.

Essentially, users agree to reading junk mail via the medium of a website (not email) and for that they are given rewards via cash. A rule of thumb is 1c per advert. Any deviation from this and the site will not be profitable, as many users have found out with other sites offering ridiculous amounts. Each advert lasts around 20-30 seconds. Advertisers are more than happy to pay because this form of advertising works.

They also pay around ½c for every ad read by people who you recruit. This can soon build up as can be seen later.

Well that’s the basics. Now how can you make this work for you?

The Early Days:

Click away for the first few weeks. There are a minimum of 4 ads per day. There are bots around to pick up more ads but Neobux is very good at spotting this so I would strongly advise you not to use them. The total time taken should be around 2 minutes and then you can forget about it until the following day. Try to get into a routine because if you wait less than 24 hours, your statistics look weird. The ads reset at the same point every day so you could find yourself thinking you have been given 8. Don’t fall into this trap. Pick a time and stick to it. You also earn 1/2c per click when people join under your referral banner. This is not allowed for the first month, so for now, just keep clicking away.

Many people invest money on day one. They haven't got the patience to wait out. I myself invested $15 to kick start it. If you don't invest, 4c daily will take you 75 days to get to the point of 3 referrals. In my first version of this guide, I advised against investing. But I have changed my stance on this. I now say if you have got money to invest, that is money which if lost tomorrow would not affect your ability to pay the bills, then go ahead. But what I would also say is take it out as soon as you can so that there is no way you can lose money.

As mentioned earlier, when you hit the 4 weeks and 2 days point, you can start emailing the adverts to people. Use the "Banners" section of the site and add it to your email signature etc. It's best not to be too pushy. If you are too pushy, people will be more turned off than turned on. I hate spammers. Every time you hit a milestone, send the update out. This could be every time you rent out 3 referrals, every time your earnings pass a $5 or $10 barrier. If you can afford to invest a little, take a screenshot of your Paypal account when you hit $2 mark but before you cashout. Then cashout. Then take a second screenshot of the Paypal account. This will show Neobux pays out at $2. Immediately pay $5 back in. This will take a little while to take out again but it will prove to people that it pays out and will only cost you $3 of your own cash. Ideally, you should wait until you are earning far more but some people prefer to do it this way. Just remember to have the extra $3 ready because Neobux cashed out at $2 but minimum investment is $5 and you can't transfer this $5 back out again, it has to go into investment and you can only cash out when your clicks have earnt you the money. Personally, I would wait until you are earning $1 per day to do it. That way you can withdraw a more meaningful amount, say $10, do the screenshots, immediately reinvest back in and in 10 days the money is back where it started and you have your proof of payment.

So how is that going to make me any decent money?

Quite simply, it isn’t. But what you are about to read can make you a lot of money if you stick to it. When I first started I had spreadsheets and calculators and all manner of systems going through my head. I have since shrunk this down to a more manageable level. I have done a lot of research and have publicised this and now get a lot of emails and forum questions on numerous financial forums. I give this advice and time for free because I want to help people do what I do. However, sometimes I get it wrong, as I am about to explain.

I was totally obsessive about figures and stats. I advised people to recycle and concentrate on just getting the 500 referrals required. This I now know to be wrong. There is a happy medium to be balanced. So here we go:

Renting Referrals

This is the first major topic. In the past I have said you can afford to get a little bit ahead of yourselves when the money goes up. Don’t do it. Basically, when you get to $3, rather than using it to get 3 referrals and putting them on 3 month extensions, just hold fire. It is far better to rent 3 referrals and then wait. When you first get them, give it 2 days (not the previous mentioned week). Then when all 3 are happily clicking away, then extend them for 90 days. The reason for this is twofold. Keeping a non-clicking referral for a week is a waste of 25% of your rental fee. More than half will be ok, but you may have to recycle 2 of them. In general, after 2 to 3 recycles (6 days), you will have 3 good referrals. At this point you can check your balance. If you have enough, extend them by 90 days. If not, extend 2 of them by 90 days. Extending by 90 days gives you 90 days at 20% discount. This is a huge discount. You can now just do the normal clicking but every rather than having to keep your average clicks at 2 for a profit, you only need 1.6. That is how much difference the 90 day extensions make.

For those who have invested money, I would strongly suggest you stick with the same rules and numbers. Getting used to the system and making errors at this stage is much better than making an error with $100 invested. It is much easier to track too.

Moving on – More Referrals

There are 2 schools of thought here. Some people prefer to invest in more referrals and get to the magic 500. Others prefer to make sure they keep their AVG in good order (over 1.6). I have been trying the latter and it doesn’t work. I was constantly trying to keep my AVG up and not going forward. Luckily this only lasted a few days. I initially tried to invest madly in referrals but I realised I would be losing money, so I have found the happy medium works best. I will work on my AVG everytime it drops below 1. This was discovered when I received feedback on one of the forums from somebody who had done exactly that. I thought it may cost too much money but when I looked at this, it didn’t make that much difference because it allowed me to get more referrals (money not being spent on recycling) which balanced it. Then as soon as I went below the AVG of 1, I would spend a few days recycling my lowest AVGs and also those who hadn’t clicked for over 4 days. This had a remarkable effect and in less than a week my AVG doubled, which meant my income doubled. Without doubt I will be doing this all the time. If it isn’t happening, get it to 1.8 but 2 works for me. If you find your referrals are getting close to expiry, then extend by 30 or 60 days instead. As long as the vast majority are still on 90 day extensions, the AVG required doesn’t move too much.

Finally in this section, never rent more than an extra 33% of what you already have. There are several reasons for this. It is easier to manage and it sits well with your balance. It also doesn’t seem as daunting. Always only use money you have just moved into rental balance. That way you know you are using new money and not money for previous rental upkeep.

Autopay

So we are now happy with a recycling strategy and we are slowly building up the number of referrals. It will soon become a little more difficult to mange them. This is where Autopay comes in. Autopay gives a discount on price of referrals per day. It actually takes a fraction of your earnings (quoted wrongly at 10% discount in several places) to pay for your rental for that day. So good clickers will take far more than 90 days to lapse their rental. Put this on when you are finding it takes too long to maintain every day. There are long discussions over whether it is worth it. I say it isn’t in the early days as too many referrals click once or twice and stop. As you get more referrals, it is worth it because it is much easier to manage. It works until your referrals go below 20 days. Bearing this in mind it is a good idea when you can afford it to stop referrals dipping below the 20 day level. Always try to keep them above 20 days rather than getting new referrals when Autopay is on.

Never let e referral expire. Neobux charge for this. If desperate, extend for 30 days.

To summarise:

Don’t publicise in month 1 – you will lose the referrals.
Click every day as many as you can.
When you have $3, rent 3 referrals.
Recycle them if they have done nothing after 2 days.
When you can, put them to 90 days extensions.
When your AVG falls under 1, recycle the lowest AVGs and all those who have not clicked for 4 days or more, starting with those who have been away longest. Do this until AVG hits 1.8 or 2. Extend by 30 or 60 days if you can’t afford 90 at this point.
When it gets too time consuming, put Autopay on and don’t let them slip under 20 days, again use 30 and 60 days extensions if required.
Only get an extra 33% referrals of what you already have, 1 referral per $1.

Using this method, you will soon build up your referrals. When you hit 500, just maintain them until you have enough to go Golden. This is where the income doubles from referrals and you can start withdrawing.

Don’t jump the gun and buy Golden too early. It is much more difficult to rent referrals.

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xtremexx · 12-04-2009, 10:45 PM

thanks soooo much

Referee · 12-10-2009, 07:44 PM

This actually makes a lot more sense than your previous couple of guides. Thanks.

I also like the way you have admitted mistakes in the other guides. I'm surprised you missed off your referral link though.

havenlad · 12-10-2009, 11:56 PM

Thanks for the feedback. The referral link is in there a few times. It's not too big as i don't want to make it look like spam, more for information. The most obvious referral link as at the bottom.

havenlad · 12-18-2009, 09:19 PM

Take note over the next 2 weeks, clicks will go down - don't take this to heart, it's a seasonal dip and it picks up again in January.

havenlad · 12-24-2009, 03:29 PM

It's a mad week for PTC. A lot of people who would normally click religiously will be travelling, spending time with family, watching crap films, getting mullered on the beer, or just generally having temporary changes in their lifestyle. Basically, they won't click much for the next 12 days. Be a bit more understanding of your rented referrals habits. if a normally good referral looks like they have disappeared, give them a little leeway and don't recycle them. Your AVG will take a hammering. Don't bother maintaining your AVG until the first week in January. Yes it may hurt to see your AVG drop to below 1, but it will pick up naturally in the new year when everything gets back to normal.

havenlad · 12-26-2009, 01:55 AM

Autopay costs .009c per day for each referral. This means on the first click, you earn .005c, the second click you earn .01c, but the cost is .009 so in reality it is on the 2nd click you make a tiny profit, not the first click as suggested my some. The 10% saving is a bit misleading. It depends on how many clicks per day. It should be used sparingly and only when you are really in need. Avoid it as long as possible. Only when you have too many referrals expiring in the month.

Robot3000 · 12-28-2009, 03:23 AM

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Take note over the next 2 weeks, clicks will go down - don't take this to heart, it's a seasonal dip and it picks up again in January.

That's a bummer. Looks like I'll not quite have the $1.80 to reinvest in three referrals for 90 days now. Will have to make do with two.

havenlad · 12-28-2009, 08:03 PM

Ina few months time you will laugh at such things. Keep the faith

chris0148 · 12-28-2009, 08:08 PM

i am already on neobux, still trying to build some money but i dont make much profit
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